whythefuckisyouromeo:

hey self-diagnosers, I got a question: if you have the means to get an official medical diagnosis then why don’t you? let’s just exclude the people who financially cannot get a diagnosis. if you have the ability to go see a doctor and get diagnosed (and thereby open up medical and therapeutic treatment options) then what is stopping you? unless you’re worried that they’re not gonna diagnose you because, oh yeah, you’re a teenager with internet access and you probably don’t actually have the condition you think you have

I mean, I don’t know what the word “means” here i supposed to mean.  I have the financial means, but I don’t have the emotional means.  I have PSTD from parental abuse, multiple rapes (one of which was by a doctor), and medical abuse. 

I don’t see a doctor because I’m terrified of doctors.  Last time I went to a psychiatrist about trauma, I was shamed and treated as defective and wrong and misbehaving for my coping mechanisms, dxed with PD-NOS and never even told about that until I requested my medical records 4 yrs later, and had the psychiatrist try to force me into getting an IUD.  I’ve seen myself destroyed by doctors, I’ve seen my friends harmed so much by doctors. I don’t trust doctors not to harm me anymore.  I’ve picked myself up after facing all this abuse and I’m terrified of getting back to a really bad place (not that I’m in a good place emotionally right now) and it sucks.

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posted 2 weeks ago (® whythefuckisyouromeo)
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kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

kenziedig:

I find it really off putting when people list on their blogs mental illnesses they have self diagnosed. Like extremely long lists of every mental illness that they think they have. maybe you are just a hypochondriac. I am tired of people making fun of depression and anxiety…

I was not to trying. I was saying that these people who constantly self diagnos themselves might be hypocondriacts.

Edit:also I used the word just as to say they dont have multiple illnesses but just one.

BUT THATS LITERALLY DIAGNOSING THEM

DIAGNOSING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW

AND IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE WITH MULTIPLE ILLNESSES HAS HYPOCHONDRIASIS

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER THAN SELF DIAGNOSIS

I deffinetly wasnt telling them what they (it’s called a suggestion) had I was just saying that instead of them thinking they have allll these mental illnesses listed up and down their blog like its some cool show and tell, they might have an illness where you think you have many illnesses you dont have. I wasnt say they all have this I wad saying that is a characteristic of a illness they maybe need to go get it checked out instead of just saying they have a ton of other mental illness then using them as a get of trouble card when they are called out on problematic bullshit. Cause I have seen this way to many times on tumblr by younger uses. Self diagnosis is dangerous because if you try and help yourself get better for the wrong illness it could be dangerous. Also if you give out wrong information on an illness you say you have you spread around ignorance of that illness which is a big issue. If you think you suffer from a mental illness you should talk to a doctor or concealer.

Not everyone has access to a doctor.

And again, many people have coexisting mental illnesses.  That doesn’t mean they have hypochondriasis.  

It is obvious people have multiple illnesses, that was not what I am talking about. I am talking about people who self diagnos mental illnesses they dont have or dont know if they dont have them…

Yes many people cant go to doctors but many children (and I am speaking for the u.s. because I dont wish to speak for places I dont live and am not educated about) go to public schools where a consular is provided to help children talk through some issues and help them. And most of the people online self diagnosing and spreading wrong information are young teens or preteens in school who have access to this resource but dont use it.

Counselors can’t diagnose.

You can literally google cheap mental illness help and NAMI and MHA help things come up. You can contact them and they will help you find affordable mental health services and get you help. People need to take mental illnesses seriously and encourage people to get help and diagnosed and treatment. People see it as a joke due to people online and in the world spreading false information.

I have no clue what you are tryibg to argue with me about or what your stance is. If you are saying its okay for teens self diagnosing and spreading false information and staying uneducated and untreated/unhelped then I dont think we will get anywhere and no one will benefit so this can just end cause itll be pointless.

Money isn’t the only reason someone wouldn’t have access to a doctor. “Cheap” mental health care often costs $20/session which is a lot of money weekly.  Some people live in abusive households with parents or others who prevent them from seeking mental healthcare.  Some people have been abused by medical professionals.  There are so so many reasons why people don’t seek mental health care.

That group of people is not what I am talking about. I am talking about people who do have access to all these resources but do not use them and continue to say they have multiple mental illnesses they are unsure of and list them all over their blog.

Also self diagnosis accomplishes so little. By saying you have this illness you aren’t helping yourself. You receive no threapy or treatment or no emotional help. You are dwelling on the possibility of an illness. Also many physical illness can have have symptoms of mental illness. Thyroid issues and brain tumors. So its damgerous to go around unsure of what you have and not receiving help for it.

But that group of people (people who cannot receive medical care or for whom medical care would be a disadvantage rather than an advantage - i.e. trans people for whom mental health diagnoses could make it more difficult for them to receive hormones or surgery) makes up such a large portion of the group of people who self diagnose.  You can’t just make a post generally about self diagnosis and then say “well not those people.”  Plus idk if this is the same person youre talking about but one of those people who listed a bunch of mental illnesses later revealed themselves to be a troll who was mocking self-diagnosers, and therefore can’t really be considered a self-diagnoser.

I disagree that it accomplishes nothing.  Sometimes a label can do so much psychologically for people.  It assures them that there’s nothing wrong with them, and that they have a community of people with somewhat similar troubles.  They can seek solace in this community.

And like, sure if you want care, it’s not ideal to not be without treatment.  But again, most self diagnosers have real reasons for not seeking treatment and taking the one thing they do have isn’t going to change that.

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posted 2 weeks ago (® kenziedig)

ghostlykins:

I’m not against self diagnosis at all but, I’m just gonna say that there’s some things you can’t accurately diagnose yourself with without knowing how you were as a baby…since it’s something you’re born with. As in, you do not develop it.

Like, anxiety/OCD/etc is developed (my anxiety disorder started developing when I was about 10-11 years old)…some things just…aren’t like that……………..

That’s all I gotta say about it

This argument really falls apart when you realize that people who are estranged from their parents, whose parents are deceased, or whose parents are abusive / not supportive of them getting a diagnosis are still able to get diagnoses.  Sure, you’re born with some things, but doctors make diagnoses with limited information too.

Like it’s not like the doctor’s going to know what people were like as a baby.

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posted 2 weeks ago (® glitch-prince)
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lithium-knights:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

lithium-knights:

lithium-knights:

If you ever seriously condone self-diagnosing mental illness you need to sit down and re-evaluate your choices.

Like it’s one thing to suspect you have a mental illness but until you speak to an actual medical professional, don’t go around telling people you’re bipolar or…

Speaking with a professional about treatment options is usually pretty crucial to recovery, but whatever, I guess feels are more important than medical fact.

Psychiatry has done a good job of portraying themselves as the only path towards recovery but 

guess what

its not true :D

ive gotten more out of mutual support between other people facing similar issues than i EVER have out of psychiatry.  not everyones the same there, but portraying psychiatry as the One True Path is false.

Okay, from what I can tell your blog is like 90% arguments, so I’ll make this quick.

My mother is actually going for a Master’s degree in psychology, and when I asked her her thoughts on self diagnosis, she just laughed and rolled her eyes.

Second, a lot of psychiatry isn’t just pills. In my experience, doctors have been giving me prescriptions as an absolute last resort option, instead choosing to try therapy (group therapy and solo therapy), support via family and friends, lifestyle changes, etc, often combining different treatments with each other for best results. Obviously, not all doctors are the same, and finding a good doctor can be trial and error, but it’s still important.

Third, I’ve found that self-diagnosis on Tumblr has led to an influx in “special snowflake”-esque people competing in weird oppression olympics to see who’s the most fucked up. This undermines the legitimacy of actual mentally ill people that suffer and need treatment.

But none of that matters to you, because you’re obviously very set in your ways. If you think self-diagnosing is harmless, whatever, you’re wrong, but I’m not going to lose sleep over it. I won’t bother arguing with a brick wall anymore.

Yeah, that’s cause it’s my sub-blog for these things so I don’t fill up my main blog with arguments.

I don’t care about your mom’s psych major feelings.  

I wasn’t just talking about pills.  I’m saying that people can find support outside of psychiatry.  I’m saying that people don’t have to see a psychiatrist or a therapist to find support.  They can if they want to, but for some people that’s very scary and even has been dangerous.  Some people can’t do the whole trial and error process - that’s pretty risky, and if people want to take that risk, they should.  If people don’t, they shouldn’t.  Ultimately, it’s their decision what their recovery process looks like.  Coercing people into medical care isn’t okay.

And I know what psychiatry is like, I’ve been in the psychiatric system since I was 11.

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posted 3 weeks ago (® lithium-knights)
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kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

kenziedig:

I find it really off putting when people list on their blogs mental illnesses they have self diagnosed. Like extremely long lists of every mental illness that they think they have. maybe you are just a hypochondriac. I am tired of people making fun of depression and anxiety…

I was not to trying. I was saying that these people who constantly self diagnos themselves might be hypocondriacts.

Edit:also I used the word just as to say they dont have multiple illnesses but just one.

BUT THATS LITERALLY DIAGNOSING THEM

DIAGNOSING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW

AND IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE WITH MULTIPLE ILLNESSES HAS HYPOCHONDRIASIS

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER THAN SELF DIAGNOSIS

I deffinetly wasnt telling them what they (it’s called a suggestion) had I was just saying that instead of them thinking they have allll these mental illnesses listed up and down their blog like its some cool show and tell, they might have an illness where you think you have many illnesses you dont have. I wasnt say they all have this I wad saying that is a characteristic of a illness they maybe need to go get it checked out instead of just saying they have a ton of other mental illness then using them as a get of trouble card when they are called out on problematic bullshit. Cause I have seen this way to many times on tumblr by younger uses. Self diagnosis is dangerous because if you try and help yourself get better for the wrong illness it could be dangerous. Also if you give out wrong information on an illness you say you have you spread around ignorance of that illness which is a big issue. If you think you suffer from a mental illness you should talk to a doctor or concealer.

Not everyone has access to a doctor.

And again, many people have coexisting mental illnesses.  That doesn’t mean they have hypochondriasis.  

It is obvious people have multiple illnesses, that was not what I am talking about. I am talking about people who self diagnos mental illnesses they dont have or dont know if they dont have them…

Yes many people cant go to doctors but many children (and I am speaking for the u.s. because I dont wish to speak for places I dont live and am not educated about) go to public schools where a consular is provided to help children talk through some issues and help them. And most of the people online self diagnosing and spreading wrong information are young teens or preteens in school who have access to this resource but dont use it.

Counselors can’t diagnose.

You can literally google cheap mental illness help and NAMI and MHA help things come up. You can contact them and they will help you find affordable mental health services and get you help. People need to take mental illnesses seriously and encourage people to get help and diagnosed and treatment. People see it as a joke due to people online and in the world spreading false information.

I have no clue what you are tryibg to argue with me about or what your stance is. If you are saying its okay for teens self diagnosing and spreading false information and staying uneducated and untreated/unhelped then I dont think we will get anywhere and no one will benefit so this can just end cause itll be pointless.

Money isn’t the only reason someone wouldn’t have access to a doctor. “Cheap” mental health care often costs $20/session which is a lot of money weekly.  Some people live in abusive households with parents or others who prevent them from seeking mental healthcare.  Some people have been abused by medical professionals.  There are so so many reasons why people don’t seek mental health care.

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posted 3 weeks ago (® kenziedig)
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lithium-knights:

lithium-knights:

If you ever seriously condone self-diagnosing mental illness you need to sit down and re-evaluate your choices.

Like it’s one thing to suspect you have a mental illness but until you speak to an actual medical professional, don’t go around telling people you’re bipolar or…

Speaking with a professional about treatment options is usually pretty crucial to recovery, but whatever, I guess feels are more important than medical fact.

Psychiatry has done a good job of portraying themselves as the only path towards recovery but 

guess what

its not true :D

ive gotten more out of mutual support between other people facing similar issues than i EVER have out of psychiatry.  not everyones the same there, but portraying psychiatry as the One True Path is false.

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posted 3 weeks ago (® lithium-knights)

lithium-knights:

If you ever seriously condone self-diagnosing mental illness you need to sit down and re-evaluate your choices.

Like it’s one thing to suspect you have a mental illness but until you speak to an actual medical professional, don’t go around telling people you’re bipolar or OCD or clinically depressed.

Honestly. If you think you’re mentally ill, don’t get your diagnosis from WebMD, talk to an actual doctor. PLEASE. It is IMPERATIVE for your treatment and recovery.

Sincerely, someone who’s actually been diagnosed with 3 mental illnesses.

You can’t tell people what’s imperative to their recovery.  You can never know that.

Sincerely, someone who has been professionally diagnosed with 11 mental illnesses and cognitive disabilities, not like this should be a competition

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posted 3 weeks ago (® lithium-knights)
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kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

kenziedig:

I find it really off putting when people list on their blogs mental illnesses they have self diagnosed. Like extremely long lists of every mental illness that they think they have. maybe you are just a hypochondriac. I am tired of people making fun of depression and anxiety…

I was not to trying. I was saying that these people who constantly self diagnos themselves might be hypocondriacts.

Edit:also I used the word just as to say they dont have multiple illnesses but just one.

BUT THATS LITERALLY DIAGNOSING THEM

DIAGNOSING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW

AND IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE WITH MULTIPLE ILLNESSES HAS HYPOCHONDRIASIS

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER THAN SELF DIAGNOSIS

I deffinetly wasnt telling them what they (it’s called a suggestion) had I was just saying that instead of them thinking they have allll these mental illnesses listed up and down their blog like its some cool show and tell, they might have an illness where you think you have many illnesses you dont have. I wasnt say they all have this I wad saying that is a characteristic of a illness they maybe need to go get it checked out instead of just saying they have a ton of other mental illness then using them as a get of trouble card when they are called out on problematic bullshit. Cause I have seen this way to many times on tumblr by younger uses. Self diagnosis is dangerous because if you try and help yourself get better for the wrong illness it could be dangerous. Also if you give out wrong information on an illness you say you have you spread around ignorance of that illness which is a big issue. If you think you suffer from a mental illness you should talk to a doctor or concealer.

Not everyone has access to a doctor.

And again, many people have coexisting mental illnesses.  That doesn’t mean they have hypochondriasis.  

It is obvious people have multiple illnesses, that was not what I am talking about. I am talking about people who self diagnos mental illnesses they dont have or dont know if they dont have them…

Yes many people cant go to doctors but many children (and I am speaking for the u.s. because I dont wish to speak for places I dont live and am not educated about) go to public schools where a consular is provided to help children talk through some issues and help them. And most of the people online self diagnosing and spreading wrong information are young teens or preteens in school who have access to this resource but dont use it.

Counselors can’t diagnose.

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posted 3 weeks ago (® kenziedig)
http://nothingaboutus-withoutus.tumblr.com/post/93944462718/kenziedig-i-find-it-really-off-putting-when      

kenziedig:

nothingaboutus-withoutus:

kenziedig:

kenziedig:

I find it really off putting when people list on their blogs mental illnesses they have self diagnosed. Like extremely long lists of every mental illness that they think they have. maybe you are just a hypochondriac. I am tired of people making fun of depression and anxiety…

I was not to trying. I was saying that these people who constantly self diagnos themselves might be hypocondriacts.

Edit:also I used the word just as to say they dont have multiple illnesses but just one.

BUT THATS LITERALLY DIAGNOSING THEM

DIAGNOSING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW

AND IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE WITH MULTIPLE ILLNESSES HAS HYPOCHONDRIASIS

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER THAN SELF DIAGNOSIS

I deffinetly wasnt telling them what they (it’s called a suggestion) had I was just saying that instead of them thinking they have allll these mental illnesses listed up and down their blog like its some cool show and tell, they might have an illness where you think you have many illnesses you dont have. I wasnt say they all have this I wad saying that is a characteristic of a illness they maybe need to go get it checked out instead of just saying they have a ton of other mental illness then using them as a get of trouble card when they are called out on problematic bullshit. Cause I have seen this way to many times on tumblr by younger uses. Self diagnosis is dangerous because if you try and help yourself get better for the wrong illness it could be dangerous. Also if you give out wrong information on an illness you say you have you spread around ignorance of that illness which is a big issue. If you think you suffer from a mental illness you should talk to a doctor or concealer.

Not everyone has access to a doctor.

And again, many people have coexisting mental illnesses.  That doesn’t mean they have hypochondriasis.  

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posted 3 weeks ago (® kenziedig)
http://nothingaboutus-withoutus.tumblr.com/post/93944462718/kenziedig-i-find-it-really-off-putting-when   

kenziedig:

kenziedig:

I find it really off putting when people list on their blogs mental illnesses they have self diagnosed. Like extremely long lists of every mental illness that they think they have. maybe you are just a hypochondriac. I am tired of people making fun of depression and anxiety…

I was not to trying. I was saying that these people who constantly self diagnos themselves might be hypocondriacts.

Edit:also I used the word just as to say they dont have multiple illnesses but just one.

BUT THATS LITERALLY DIAGNOSING THEM

DIAGNOSING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW

AND IMPLYING THAT EVERYONE WITH MULTIPLE ILLNESSES HAS HYPOCHONDRIASIS

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER THAN SELF DIAGNOSIS

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posted 3 weeks ago (® kenziedig)

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